1975 BMW 2002 tii (with subtitles)|TopGear Magazine HK 極速志 topgearhk

添加 2021年08月20日
The BMW 2002 tii in 1975 was the backbone of BMW's New Class plan in the 1960s and 1970s, and it was also one of the most representative BMW cars. After the Second World War, the BMW depot was waiting to be flourished, and the business situation was poor. It was almost acquired by the Daimler Group. Fortunately, a new boss joined, reorganized the business, and launched New Class, a major plan for comprehensive product innovation, and the business improved immediately. , And 2002 is the most prestigious car in the New Class. In 2002, both the appearance and the mechanical design improved the past practices of the BMW car factory, and more importantly, established the pattern of the future sports car. After the New Class plan was successfully retired, the first generation BMW 3 Series was inherited from 2002, which shows how important a BMW car is in 2002.



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  • 咩叫專業講車, 完美示範! 學到好多野, 希望多d出呢個組合講下汽車歷史!

  • 龍sir真係好正😂“初戀丫,激情丫果啲唔啱我。”笑死我😂😂😂

  • 正呀!好鍾意睇你地介紹的經典車片! 未睇都先比like同留comment, thx!

  • 个樣好過易加D宝螞

  • 8:30 在英國汽車節目 Wheeler Dealers 的第12季中第4集中翻修該汽車。 由 Edd China 負責維修。 cnlinks.info/pic/pWyoj9NpuJxz1Jc/sh-p-n

  • 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • 聽龍sir一席話勝讀十年書 +1

  • 如果呢架車嘅話toyzone hk嗰度有兩盒模型

  • 可以的話,找SAAB的車都不錯

  • Nice! Beautiful video from Hong Kong, I never knew there is a following for the 02 in Hong Kong. For the ones who is looking for one I have a beautiful unrestored Luxus 1602. The Luxus has a lot of extra luxury like genuine wood ashtray real wood cockpit arm rest pullman chairs wood inlay on the doors and extra door compartments. And it is a Right hand drive just like in the video. Same model as in the video. Same interior color but exterior color is metallic red. I thought Verona red. If anyone is interested feel free to post a comment.

  • 兩個主持人 其實都係一個經典嘅絕配 而家呢啲頻道買少見少

  • I sold my 76 2002 two years ago.

  • 謝謝你們的分享。❤️👍😉!

  • 事實上寶馬的確是土瓜灣之不倒翁,如《多啦A夢》!

  • 你地真係最佳拍檔,唔係一味背個spec出黎,輕鬆又睇完一集,有講有笑之餘,又真係好關於架車既資訊比到讀者。

  • 我想問吓呢架車行得快同慢啲油耗係咪一樣

  • 下次可唔可以有機會講 240Z 呀?

  • 当年,2002 只系输比 Alfa romeo

  • 多謝2位主持。當年龍翔道有部AF4444。就是這車。好有回憶感。不知車主是誰?。想當年別無他特別。。

  • 近30年benz同bmw嘅車款肉酸到嘔,比韓國車都不如~

  • 兒時有套許冠傑的戲入面一次過炸左十幾架2002今日見到呢段片有D心痛😂

  • 讚到無可再讚👍👍👍👍👍

  • 龍sir好似好撚enjoy 我都好撚想試吓

  • GOOD

  • 好睇在兩大專家對車的熱情,充滿赤子之心

  • BMW 2002 is carefully maintained without rust dents. There is only an image of a car that has been used up to show off!

  • 190幾,幾撚驚!

  • 只要睇到兩個男人係架車度一邊講車一邊笑到四萬咁口,就知架車有幾正啦!!!

  • 冇得彈,又學到嘢!

  • 嘩正呀 2002

  • 哨牙仔之後,終於都有得試2002!

  • 看你們兩位師傅講經典車款簡直就是一種享受,拍攝手法也是一流,期待你們的新影片👍🏼👍🏼

  • 6:08 幾撚驚

  • 每次睇龍sir 加 Edmund 都係一件賞心樂事!

  • 正爆

  • Great review!

    • Smiled the whole video.

  • 見過一則廣告架車 賣 $235k ... ...

  • Featured car is a Lux model with the L incorporated onto the rear 2002tii badge, Lux models come with velour seat trim, wood trim and map pockets on the door trims. Way ahead in design as many modern cars incorporate similar trims on their door panels and the way AMG S models incorporate the letter S onto the bootlid badges. Would be great if Lung Sir could illustrate the workings of the mechanical injection system by Kugelfischer to the viewers, which was very much misunderstood back in the day and tricky to adjust/maintained without the correct knowledge. For some owners tii meant totally inefficient injection due to unreliability due to incorrect maintenance and some even resort to converting back to carburettor(s) for easy of upkeep and easy starting. Watching this episode has really bought back my fond memories of the 2002 both as a 5 year old kid when a fren of my family used to take my sister and I along with her kids to places in her 2002 automatic back in the mid 1970s and much later on as an adult when I had a 2002 racecar with a hot cam and 2x 45 webers back in the mid 1990s in Australia. The 2002 might not have the beautiful body of the 105 series Alfa, nor the performance of the twincam engine of the Fiat 124 Sport or the 4 wheel discs of the abovementioned Italian sportscars but as a package it works well despite being an upright car with a relatively high centre of gravity and a relatively slow geared and indirect steering box system. It's so chuckable and dependable with total reliability without any electrical issues unlike its Italian counterparts. I'm glad you guys managed to convey to the viewers how good the car handles in totally stock form. Everytime I get to drive a stock 1602/2002 with suspension in good condition with good 70 series tyres I just couldn't stop having a big smile on my face, despite a huge amount of bodyroll on balloon tyres the car would just keep on gripping till its limits and then let go in a very predictable manner. Back then very BMW came with very decent ride and top handling+grip but nowadays you are almost forced to choose between a boring handling and heavy car or opt for the M suspension and put up with the harsh ride. BMW no longer has its USP like they did in the 1970s and 80s, and I can't see any signs of them recovering their form in the near future either sadly. May be they would go the lazy route and tack on some 2002 styling cues on one of their electric platform models and call it the i02 a bit like the Honda E.

    • Not sure where you get your information regarding the unreliable/difficult Kf from? I have had my 1975 2002tii Lux since 1980. The injection system has never been touched and still works fine. I am also lucky enough to have a highly specced old girl with a Getrag 235/5 close ratio box and an LSD. It is also in the special order colour of black! You are correct with regard to the original wheels/tyres. The 165/70 x 13 set up was OK with the 2002 but somewhat wanting with the tii. I did go to 323i steel wheels with 185x13 XAS which was great but settled on 3 series alloys (yes, they do just fit) and 195/65 x 14 tyres. I can assure you the back end has totally lost that original "chuckability" and never moves. Any loss of grip at the rear end of an 02 was always safe and controllable, to the point of opposite lock in snow, unlike my experience with an RS 2000 Mk. 1 which gripped incredibly well until it let go and that was fingers crossed time.... Huge amount of roll? You got the corner wrong. Slow in - power on. Heavy duty springs on the rear and no lowering. Replaced the original front dampers a few years ago and the original rears this year. Yes, 46 years on the originals. Now on Bilstein gas - definitely no huge rolls! Great video and so nice to see one with SRL and not RRLs! Strange that when I had a 1970 RRL in the 70's I only wanted to upgrade to a SRL and now everyone only wants a RRL - strange times!

    • @龍Sir Thanks Lung Sir for your reply. Indeed the tii's fuel injection pump reminds me a lot of the diesel inj pump in my fren's OM617 engine in his W123 300D. As others have commented in this thread you and Edmund are able to convey to the viewers what it was like back in the day when the car was new. I feel with your background as a qualified Automotive Engineer ( not just any engineer who pretends to be a car expert ) along with Edmund's experience with cars since the 1970s along with his journalistic talent really make your channel stand out from other HK youtube channels and even the Top gear uk channels seldom feature classic cars. It's easy for any youtuber to source exotic, luxury and supercars from the distributor/agent as new cars ready to sell in volumes but sourcing the right classic cars with the right stories to tell isn't so easy. It's so refreshing to see stories of classic cars being shown with humility in a world where glory and one-upsmanship seems to rule the youtube and social media world. You are probably the only person on youtube who mentioned the way the rear seats are being located in front of the rear wheel arches for weight distribution for BMW cars rather than overlapping the arches to maximise legroom as per Japanese cars within the same era . As a young kid back in the mid 70s I often wondered why cars like the Ke25, 40 corrollas and the A70 Lancers all had ugly wheelarch intrusions onto the seat cushions :-). Keep up the good work Topgear hk team esp on classic cars in hk, I have sourced a few classic BMWs from Australia for a fren in hk ready to be exported to hk. The E12 520i and E28 M535i ( M30 engine ) may be candidates for your channel one day. The E12 has a lot in common with the 2002 featured with manual steering, 4 speed manual box, simple M10 engine with K-jet injection, drum rear brakes and spartan interior. The E28 is like the M635csi featured in your channel earlier this year but with 4 doors and single cam engine. There is also a E36.5 M3 6MT in his collection but it's probably too new to be of much interest as a true classic car.

    • 這套機械式汽油噴注系統很有趣,它的結構和原理很像早期的柴油引擎,由於汽油不像柴油般能對機械零件有潤滑功能,所以這套汽油機械系統沒有柴油系統耐用,這套系統服役期不用長,當年幾款德國車使用,很快就被共軌式電子系統取代,因此令這款2002tii更形可貴。

  • 寶馬中垃圾

  • 呢一輯,一個字:正!👍👍👍

  • 這款是小改款後的2002,初款是圓型尾燈,像巴士冷氣風咀的樣子。當年也不算少,若單門跑車計,和愛快,領先,谷巴,Ford capri 等都很常見。2002當年在澳門東望洋都威過,直至後來出了豐田施力架。

    • @TopGear HK 極速誌 不用客氣,大家研究一下,我是你們的忠實支持者,我三四歲便常常坐在爸爸旁邊遊車河,他常常考我汽車的牌子和款式,老爺車帶給我很多童年回憶呀!

    • 多謝你補充資料🙏🏻

  • 2個主持好掂

  • I had the one 2002tii in red when I was living in Hong Kong. Almost using 10 years to renovate the whole body with new wings/front grill/screen. Fun to drive with very good acceleration. In the end, it was sold to the garage which gave maintenance to my car. It is still sitting in garage in good condition. It is very lovely car..: )) It is the late BMW2002 style with square rear tail light. bmw2002 tii was the racing car in Macau Grand Prix before the era of CIvic.

  • 又上咗一課汽車歷史堂👍🏼 加油努力💪🏻值得支持

  • this 2002 so nice.

  • Edmond哥,睇親您同龍Sir介紹經典車,總帶一份喜悅,感動埋粉絲!N年前,我都揸過朋友的2002之前給傳媒朋友拍,睇完您段片,真係回憶返晒嚟!感謝🙏🏼 正呀👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 你識的Raymond

  • 2002當年有出過Turbo, 我以為T係解Turbo,好羡慕龍sir有得揸呢部經典.

    • 2002 Turbo 是E30 M3始組。但因正值石油危機。而且產量不多。

  • 好認同BMW 既handling 同balance 真係好鬼馬既車

  • 2002真係好正 真車見過一 兩次👍🏻好型 另外想分享一架日本人改裝嘅2002 cnlinks.info/pic/hH_Yd9Oh0rmirZs/sh-p-n

  • 老總 龍sir 例必未睇先like 2002車身線條,其實同當時Alfa Romeo Giulia車系有幾分相似。

  • 叮噹 大雄???

  • 好车+好制作人=好节目

  • 我都有呢部車不過係部鐵車仔,哈哈!

  • 寶馬,2002,龍sir,Edmond,呢個組合太fantastic🤩 不過聽到六七十年代寶馬繼續造後驅就沉一沉,堅持咗咁多年,去到今日都係要低頭屈服。。。

  • 車主仲要繼續幫部車出牌,真係好有愛

  • 久違了的一對雞翼車窗😃

    • 真係好涼爽👍

  • 細細個係屋企樓下車房見到依架既turbo版就覺得佢好正,但係好似龍sir咁講,架野擺到好殘

  • 龍sir 可唔可以講解下2002嘅semi trailing arm 同Porsche, FC3S 嗰啲係咪同一樣嘢?

    • @Billy So porsche的Weissach axle跟FC雖然都是以改變toe in來穩定車尾,但它們用的方法是完全不同,Porsche 用行複雜的連,FC用簡單連桿配合bushing變形。

    • @龍Sir 感謝龍sir 解答, 想問多樣嘢, 就係Porsche 嘅Weissach axle 同semi trailing arm 有冇分別?

    • FC3S後懸掛是用semi trailing arm, 跟2002比較接近,早期的911(如930,964)用的卻是trailing arm,分別較,大。

  • 要試一架車個極限 一定要原汁原味冇味精 o個種動態帶俾你ge樂趣 係改裝車俾唔到你

  • 完全同意之前ching 所講,呢pair組合講車經非常有個feel 引人入勝,道出每部vintage 嘅箇中故事。要介紹vintage 車令人吸引,一定要識講故仔,而呢部2002 俾龍sir Edmond講到出神入化,再加上呢部真係keep得非常好,又夠original, 高轉引擎聲又好聽,真係好吸引!多謝兩位大師!

  • 細個時的dream car,2002經常出賽,大包圍加尾翼正到無朋友。👍🏻

  • 呢個組合, 無得輸, 好正.

  • 寶馬同Edmond一樣 經歷過災難然後生存到落黎

    • @TopGear HK 極速誌 我知道都嚇一跳 記錄片度睇到

    • 師兄好似知啲故事喎😅

  • Bimmer👍🏻

  • 不知道20年後這些汽油經典車還有沒有生存空間

  • 嘩 右軑仲要咁新淨

    • @TopGear HK 極速誌 小d心機同錢都唔得

    • 係。主人好畀心機keep呢部車

  • 寶馬最經典是後輪八字腳,入彎真係定過抬油!

  • 圓尾燈更經典

  • 哇!呢架真・經典 超正

  • 收藏家車主好嘢。 👍👍😍

  • 13:30 喉聲好好聽

  • 次次睇Edmond+龍sir講classical car 都睇到好開心,今集睇完好想試揸依部Bmw

  • 2002 ti 好難揾到靚二手車,如果你哋搵到 BMW 3.0 CS 試埋佢, 咁就完美。

    • 據知香港人有人收藏呢部車,可惜我哋未搵到呢位高人

  • R洲車都係以左軚去設計,右軚相對市場細,都是一樣向錢看 售價不高一般人都能買得起,所以能成為車廠生存關键,Series 3都係同C class一樣,只係两者取向不同

  • 睇住兩個揸到笑曬口真係睇到自己都開心埋一份

    • 我都係,而且唔係第一次😅 兩位師傅好正呀!

  • 点解唔見劉Sir揸這車呢?

  • 好強既資料

  • 龍sir好野

  • 若果揸過BMW Isetta 就叫車媒教父?🤔

  • 大埔都有一架白色

  • 聞說那個年代的大婆係坐Benz,二奶就坐BMW,唔知係咪真?

  • 勁鐘意2002 ,但香港真係唔多2手,仲要唔平

  • 大埔墟有一架白色,應該係車房keep嘅,不過行唔行得就唔知喇!

    • 大埔一田下面停車場都成日見到有部

  • 拍得好正. 好期待睇到我個架.

  • 1975年我在大坑道新法讀緊中六,有時都見到這款車架!

    • My Dad own the 2002 then got an 728仲係行化油器😆😆

    • 記憶好似係白色,我覺得後座尾窗好有個性!

    • White Colour? 1975........?weekly 3-4times down to Wun Sha street from Tai Hand Drive by stone stair........

    • Probably thats our family car. My dad always parked at 大坑 Tung Lo Wan Road and Wun Sha Street. :)

    • Proberly thats my DAD driving there, cheers, white colour?

  • 呢對組合根本係可以直頭開個節目講經典車!真係每一條片都好好睇!

    • @TopGear HK 極速誌 係你們試同講先會有那種味道同說服力👍

    • 支持

    • I think for the over 50 year olds like myself, we can't get enough of classic car youtube clips. New car clips get boring quickly esp multiple channels feature the same car at the same time and while it's useful as a sources of crucial information for pricing/specs when the car is new they are less useful once the car is no longer the current model.

    • www.youtubetit.com/watch?v=JeluodAYyWk

    • 多謝支持

  • 老車係要D老野去表達出來,2條老野至有資格,冇得彈,又正又爽! 真係好希望可以坐埋入架車度,超享受.

  • 我都係至鍾意睇2條老野揸車講車,好啱我心水,正!

  • 呢種試車最好睇

  • 睇完好想擁有一架寶馬🤭🤭🤭

  • 期待龍sir 同龍sir 仔一齊拍條片試FK8 😂😂😂

  • 😍😍

  • 正正正正正,

  • 90年代開始揸車知道 2002好車。產量 40萬部 收藏價值唔高 香港難會有多人收藏。

  • 呢部真係經典,林海峰有架白色2002,但係唔知宜家仲有無keep住。BTW,我喺香港未見過2002旅行版。

  • My dream car 2002😍

  • 細個時老豆都有架橙色嘅,又係手攪天窗,不過喺彩虹邨對出天橋個彎位total loss咗! 而家大角咀樂群街有間車房個老闆都有2002,應該唔止一架添!

  • 至鍾意睇到龍sir一揸舊車個笑容架喇,真係又內到外再到返內🤣🤣🤣

  • 我都揸過…………😌🥰